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This is the sort of thing (from UK Injustice) ....

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:41 pm
by honestbroker1
That's desperate and plain ignorant:

MistakenIdentity replying to Lace:
Can you give up on the personal attacks it looks so desperate and against forum rules.

The McCanns told the PJ their daughter was abducted by a stranger- their friend Jane said she saw it happen before her very eyes...
The grange remit was to review the initial investigation based on stranger abduction claims by the parents.

I don't know about you ,but if The parents didn't tell the PJ then who did?
The shelved enquiry accused Kate and Gerry of murder.

Mark Harrison was instructed to investigate nothing else, and did so!

More, Mark Harrison was instructed (by the PJ) to investigate that Madeleine had been buried.

Harrison (conducting his own investigation in accordance with parameters set by the PJ) ruled out burial and made plain, from his own perspective, that he had no clue what happened to Madeleine.

Operation Grange, assimilating information from the whole of the files, just as the Portuguese prosecutors had done in, themselves, concluding that Madeleine was, indeed, abducted, very reasonably began a fresh enquiry, in cooperation with their PJ colleagues, on that basis.

The basis remains the same to the present day.

Re: This is the sort of thing (from UK Injustice) ....

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:18 pm
by honestbroker1
Mark Harrison's terms of reference:
1. Assist the Judicial Police and GNR in assessing new or previous areas searched and give opinion on the best methods and assets to provide assurance as to the absence or presence of M McCann's concealed remains.
2. Act as a "critical friend" to the officer in charge of search planning and management and offer immediate and enduring peer review until case resolution or search suspension.
3. Assist in the development of framework models such as scenario based searching to aid homicide disposal searching.
4. Consider further opportunities or areas for search in order to locate M McCann as applicable to the latest intelligence and inform tion provided.
5. Where appropriate, provide independent and impartial advice on the enabling and disabling factors of specialist resources available either within Portugal or elsewhere in body detection.
6. To assist in decision support where requested by testing and challenging claims made by persons offering unorthodox search methods or devices to aid locating M McCann.
7. Where appropriate and requested, assist in advising on procedures to procure any non Portuguese specialist assets that are deemed to be relevant and useful.
From Mark Harrison's report:
In considering the two scenarios that Madeleine McCann has been [b]murdered[/b] and her body disposed of by a person on foot or in a vehicle, I have reflected on the areas within zone 1 that have been previously searched or subject to forensic examination.
And this:
This report considers solely the possibility that Madeleine McCann has been murdered and her body is concealed within the areas previously searched by Police in Zone 1 around Praia Da Luz. Other scenarios or possibilities may on request be considered and be subject of a further report.
(Nothing in the files we read on line suggests Harrison was invited to investigate anything else, or did!)

Re: This is the sort of thing (from UK Injustice) ....

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:29 pm
by honestbroker1
Mark Harrison, indeed, investigating burial and ruling it out:
Sub Surface Burial on P D Luz Beach

For Body Disposal Purposes The Beach Can Be Separated And
Discussed Into 6 Areas.

Figure 2.The boulders in the rock falls are too large
to man handle. Vegetative growth suggests rock
falls have been in situ for some time. The low energy
wave action would not move any of the boulders. It
is possible a small child could be secreted amongst
the rocks in natural voids.

Figure 3.The cliff edge at the base of the beach is at
an angle that inhibits soil removal. The shale re fills
any hole dug and is unsuitable to achieve a burial.

Figure4.At the base of the cliff are wave cuts where
the bedrock has been eroded by wave action. Here
sand can be easily dug but after a few centimetres
the digger reaches the bed rock, preventing a
successful burial.

Figure 5.The beach cusps or berms are mounds of
sand made by wind action. These cusps form at the
limit of the tides reach and would only be recovered
in storm conditions. Digging on the cusps is easy but to achieve as
more than a few centimetres depth is very difficult to
the fine sand granules refill the hole


Figure 6.The dark sand in this image shows the
intertidal area. Here digging and burial could
possibly be achieved although it would be through a
mixture of grave1 and water. However any burial
would be quickly exposed by wave action and
ultimately taken into the sea.

Tidal Wave Data

Tidal data for the area of Praia Da Luz has been obtained from the buoy near
Faro. It collects data on wave height and diredion. However on 3* May 2007
the buoy malfunctioned and stopped collecting data for the month of May.
Data is available before and after this period and it could be inferred that
these results are consistent with the missing relevant period as there were no
exceptional storm events.

On the 2"d May 2007 the waves were of middle energy of a 2m height and a
easterly drift. When data was next collected on the 22"6May 2007 they were
now low energy waves of 0.5m to I'm with the same easterly winds.

Low tide on the night of the 3* May 2007 was at 2200hrs at 2m. The
maximum amount of beach would be accessible including the rocky outcrop.
High tide on the 4n May 2007 was at 0415hrs at 3.1 m. This would mean that
from 0200hrs onwards half the eastern part of the beach would be submerged
and so access to the rocky outcrop impossible on foot.

Therefore if someone deposited a body into the sea, on the night of M
McCann's disappearance, from the beach the optimum time window for full
access to the whole beach and rocky outcrop was between 2200hrs and
0200hrs. This time window would also be the optimum time for burial in the
sand, not withstanding the digability study limitations previously described.

The optimum time to throw a body from the top of the diff into the sea would
be between 0200hrs and 0400hrs as the sea would be at the cliffs edge.
Conversely this would not be the optimum time window for a beach burial.

Re: This is the sort of thing (from UK Injustice) ....

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:32 pm
by honestbroker1
The concluding sentence of Harrison's third and final report:
I am currently of the opinion on the available information and statistical datasets that if death has occurred, that it is possible that Madeleine McCann’s body has been disposed into the sea at Praia da Luz. (See my second report entitled “NPIA OP TASK Search Doc Beach and Marine”).
Note the conditional, if death has occurred.

Harrison had no real clue what happened to Madeleine.

Re: This is the sort of thing (from UK Injustice) ....

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:48 pm
by honestbroker1
Inspector Carlos in the final report, acknowledging full cooperation from Kate and Gerry:
On the other hand, the parents of the minor, set out in the most diversified contacts and appeals, with the diffusion of MADELEINE images, whilst, the British authorities opened up a phone-line for permanent and specialized contact, to gather all the information relative to the disappearance, as well as information coming from Interpol and other homologous Police forces.

This activity (diffusion), besides the informative aspects from the media, aimed to acquire, in the shortest period of time, information that could contribute to the investigation in two aspects, the discovery of MADELEINE with life and gather substance that could attest the circumstances of her disappearance and in case of associating to it a criminal action by a third person, having requested for that matter the focused cooperation of the population.

Re: This is the sort of thing (from UK Injustice) ....

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:56 pm
by honestbroker1
Inspector Carlos, ruling out the Smith sighting, at least, As Gerry:
Further on this issue, the testimony of MARTIN SMITH was considered, pages 1606 and following, reporting the sighting of an individual carrying a child, in one of the streets that lead to the beach. It was said that the child could be MADELEINE McCANN, although it was never peremptorily stated. Some time later, the witness alleged that, by its stance, the individual who carried the child could be GERALD McCANN, which was concluded when he saw him descending the stairs from an airplane, pages 2871, 3991 and following and 4135 and following. It was established that at the time that was being mentioned, GERALD McCANN was sitting at the table, in the Tapas Restaurant.

Re: This is the sort of thing (from UK Injustice) ....

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:03 pm
by honestbroker1
And finally, the Portuguese prosecutors making plain their 'take' on the totality of information in the files:
The parents didn't even represent the realisation of the fact, they trusted that everything would go well, as it had gone on the previous evenings, thus not equating, nor was it demanded from them, the possibility of the occurrence of an abduction of any of the children that were in their respective apartments.

Reinforcing what was said is also the fact that despite leaving their daughter alone with her siblings in the apartment during more or less dilated moments, it is certain that in any case they checked on them. Without any pretension or compensatory effect, we must also recognise that the parents already expiate a heavy penalty - the disappearance of Madeleine ....

Concerning the other indicated crimes, they are no more than that and despite our perception that, due to its high degree of probability, the occurrence of a homicide cannot be discarded, such cannot be more than a mere supposition, due to the lack of sustaining elements in the files.

The non involvement of the arguidos parents of Madeleine in any penally relevant action seems to result from the objective circumstances of them not being inside the apartment when she disappeared, from the normal behaviour that they adopted until said disappearance and afterwards, as can be amply concluded from the witness statements, from the telephone communications analysis and also from the forensics' conclusions, namely the Reports from the FSS and from the National Institute for Legal Medicine.

Re: This is the sort of thing (from UK Injustice) ....

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:07 pm
by honestbroker1
Those of a certain persuasion kick furiously against the fact -- that the McCanns were accused of murder -- because therein lies the proof of the truth of Kate's account in her book of the 'deal' put to her and Gerry that either Kate could plead guilty to finding and moving 'a body' (and Gerry would be let off scott free!); OR the pair of them would face MURDER charges.

Oh, and because Amaral, in an interview, said we talked about death by others, not murder!

Re: This is the sort of thing (from UK Injustice) ....

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:18 pm
by honestbroker1
Chapter 16 of Amaral's book

http://goncaloamaraltruthofthelie.blogs ... er-16.html

.....

And the concluding sentence of Harrison's final report:
I am currently of the opinion on the available information and statistical datasets that if death has occurred, that it is possible that Madeleine McCann’s body has been disposed into the sea at Praia da Luz. (See my second report entitled “NPIA OP TASK Search Doc Beach and Marine”).

Re: This is the sort of thing (from UK Injustice) ....

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:22 pm
by honestbroker1
Something else not fully understood by everyone, I don't think, is what was supposed to be the nature of the professional and working relationship between Grime and Harrison.

Harrison's role was to try to solve the crime; also to bring to the investigation the resources he felt he needed to assist him to do that. One of the resources he brought was Grime with his dogs.

Grime's role was to deploy his dogs strictly in the areas Harrison directed to look for additional clues that might help Harrison solve the crime.