Exposing the Myths - Rebuttal "50 facts" leaflet

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Exposing the Myths - Rebuttal "50 facts" leaflet

Post by Cath » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:01 pm

Rebuttal of the MMRG (Madeleine McCann Research Group)'s publication entitled "50 facts about the Maddie case that the British media are not telling you"
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(This rebuttal is FULLY Sourced - Many are PRIMARY sources!)
Background to the Rebuttal Wiki
"50 facts about the Maddie case that the British media are not telling you"

WARNING! : 54% of these "facts" are either partially or entirely FALSE!
32% are significantly misleading or misrepresentative of the facts!
1 is a rumour (even the source says it is a rumour)!
Many others are unsubstantiated or simply irrelevant.
Finally, despite what the MMRG claim,
68% have the (frequently British) media as their source!

In a lengthy ruling on Tuesday [28-04-2015], Amaral was found guilty of libelling the pair and ordered to pay them €250,000 each in damages. The judge also banned further sale of his book, the Truth of the Lie.

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Post by Lily » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:11 pm

FANTASTIC. WELL DONE YOU GUYS. (I'm shouting with joy).



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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Cath » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:13 pm

REPLY BY TB: Yes, I am satisfied that those 50 facts in that leaflet are all true. We would be able to prove that if you had the balls to debate '50 FACTS' with me as you said you would.

Big mistake Tony. :s_laughat
In a lengthy ruling on Tuesday [28-04-2015], Amaral was found guilty of libelling the pair and ordered to pay them €250,000 each in damages. The judge also banned further sale of his book, the Truth of the Lie.

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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Alibongo » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:28 pm

Jayelles rebuttal of the 50 facts..

Post C.Edwards Today at 9:19 pm
Apologies if this is already on here somewhere, can't see it? Jayelles has (finally) put up something in response. It does, however, seem incredibly flimsy as iot doesn't actually say anything other than "inaccurate/misleading - source police files" against most, which is as useful as a chocolate teapot!

http://madeleinemythsexposed.pbworks.co ... /Main-Page

edited to add: actually there's more there than I thought but you have to click on the blue text. doh. Reading it now...


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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Hael » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:33 pm

The trolls funding a shamed coppers right to lie about Kate and Gerry McCann are a new level of weirdo.[omitted] they may have destroyed all hope for good.Talking up conspiracy theories is one thing.Wrecking the search for an abducted child is another.-The Sun

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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by urcrazy » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:42 pm

Truth just posted this at PFA - is the history still showing?

You do realise that it shows every amendment you have made to each piece. Just the Anti's may say you have changed it all to suit your needs.
Scotland Yard detectives believe Madeleine was abducted in "a criminal act by a stranger"

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And neither, thankfully, are you.

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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Cath » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:46 pm

urcrazy wrote:Truth just posted this at PFA - is the history still showing?

You do realise that it shows every amendment you have made to each piece. Just the Anti's may say you have changed it all to suit your needs.
Editing grammar mistakes and double checking facts can hardly be used against anybody is it?
As far as I can see there's only the last version online.
In a lengthy ruling on Tuesday [28-04-2015], Amaral was found guilty of libelling the pair and ordered to pay them €250,000 each in damages. The judge also banned further sale of his book, the Truth of the Lie.

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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Hael » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:47 pm

Twitter
mccannexposure - #mccann http://t.co/IXSJ6ty more illiterate lies & diatribe, waste of a day -"Based on the content of the forum, we have taken it offline."
The trolls funding a shamed coppers right to lie about Kate and Gerry McCann are a new level of weirdo.[omitted] they may have destroyed all hope for good.Talking up conspiracy theories is one thing.Wrecking the search for an abducted child is another.-The Sun

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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Hael » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:48 pm

Cath wrote:
urcrazy wrote:Truth just posted this at PFA - is the history still showing?

You do realise that it shows every amendment you have made to each piece. Just the Anti's may say you have changed it all to suit your needs.
Editing grammar mistakes and double checking facts can hardly be used against anybody is it?
As far as I can see there's only the last version online.
It's only the last edit that shows.
The trolls funding a shamed coppers right to lie about Kate and Gerry McCann are a new level of weirdo.[omitted] they may have destroyed all hope for good.Talking up conspiracy theories is one thing.Wrecking the search for an abducted child is another.-The Sun

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Post by urcrazy » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:57 pm

No, there is a side bar headed Recent Activity!

And it shows a lot of it. Is that just very minor stuff do you mean Cath?
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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Jayelles » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:59 pm

urcrazy wrote:No, there is a side bar headed Recent Activity!

And it shows a lot of it. Is that just very minor stuff do you mean Cath?
No that's OK. We cleaned everything up before we went live. It was only formatting stuff latterly. The formatting was a bit of a nightmare to be honest.

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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Cath » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:02 pm

Jayelles wrote:
urcrazy wrote:No, there is a side bar headed Recent Activity!

And it shows a lot of it. Is that just very minor stuff do you mean Cath?
No that's OK. We cleaned everything up before we went live. It was only formatting stuff latterly. The formatting was a bit of a nightmare to be honest.
Yes, I've noticed that too. Jay is right, it was only formatting, some words didn't have a space in between, others had suddenly a wrong font etc. We checked them all before going live.
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Post by urcrazy » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:18 pm

Great stuff.
Scotland Yard detectives believe Madeleine was abducted in "a criminal act by a stranger"

No Janine you poor deluded muppet, I am NOT John Lowe.
And neither, thankfully, are you.

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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Jayelles » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:21 pm

I daresay that over the coming days more typos will come to light. Alternatively, I may get wiki-edit withdrawal and feel the compelling urge to tweak a character here and there...

Then it will be onto phase II.

Take That T-shirts will be available next month :-)

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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Hael » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:11 pm

Can you hear the cogs of the underworld turning frantically. A sudden influx of mail to TB's mailbox, followed by a quick change of underwear.
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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Alibongo » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:36 pm

Re: Tony accepts Jayelles' challenge - but she ducks it

Post Tony Bennett Today at 10:34 pm

Me wrote:Can we now expect a rebuttal of their er rebuttal from Tony?


C. Edwards has said that Jayelles' response is, and I quote: "...incredibly flimsy as it doesn't actually say anything other than 'inaccurate/misleading' - source police files' against most, which is as useful as a chocolate teapot!"

Far be it from me to disagree.

A rebuttal to the rebuttal is not top of our priorities right now. There won't be another meeting of the Madeleine McCann Research Group for a while, anyway.
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Post by Alibongo » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:37 pm

Re: Tony accepts Jayelles' challenge - but she ducks it

Post Ringo Today at 10:46 pm
It's a 50 plus page response to your leaflet, with sources and referenced back-up running to many more pages Tony and make the point most convincingly indeed that virtually all your 50 Facts are false, innacurate or misleading. Do you really not have the time or energy to defend yourself against this? Perhaps you have less confidence in your leaflet now that you have seen this.


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Post admin Today at 10:55 pm
Jayelles has taken months to reply and you and he/she can't expect Tony to down tools and reply immediately.

You'll all have to wait a while.


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Post Ringo Today at 11:11 pm
No one was expecting an instant rebuttal from Tony, however the speed with which he was happy to agree with C.Edwards ludicrous assertion that 'Exposing The Myths' is "incredibly flimsy" seemed to suggest that he wasn't planning to give it due consideration. A few weeks ago Tony seemed very keen to have his leaflet rebutted by Jayelles, but perhaps this is a little more than he had bargained for!


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Post by urcrazy » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:38 pm

perhaps this is a little more than he had bargained for!

isn't it just? tee hee :s_biggrin
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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Alibongo » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:48 pm

A rebuttal to the rebuttal is not top of our priorities now :s_no

I bet its not :s_rofl :s_rofl :s_rofl


This is nothing compared to what a legal eagle will do to all the lies and malicious libel he has penned over the last 4 years!
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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Cath » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:20 am

A rebuttal to the rebuttal is not top of our priorities right now. There won't be another meeting of the Madeleine McCann Research Group for a while, anyway.

POLL!!!!!!

a. He's busy writing letters to CR on behalf of himself, the MF and the members of the cult;
b. He knows our rebuttal is better than his and it's resourced, he CAN't rebut it, just like he couldn't rebut CG's rebuttal re the GASP/Amaral leaflet.
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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Hael » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:42 am

Vee8 wrote:Post Ringo Today at 11:11 pm
No one was expecting an instant rebuttal from Tony, however the speed with which he was happy to agree with C.Edwards ludicrous assertion that 'Exposing The Myths' is "incredibly flimsy" seemed to suggest that he wasn't planning to give it due consideration. A few weeks ago Tony seemed very keen to have his leaflet rebutted by Jayelles, but perhaps this is a little more than he had bargained for!

:s_tease
I wonder if the members of the so called MM RESEARCH GROUP (what a joke!) have been fired by their master. They all successfully manged to make total arses, not only out of themselves, but out of the headmaster as well. In the light of this disaster and with the knowledge that TB tends to out his fellow culprits, maybe he should (in the name of 'pubic interest' of course) divulge the MMRG names.
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Post by Jayelles » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:20 am

The only members of the MMRG who openly wear their colour coded MMRG badges are Alison and Kikoraton. But in fairness, Bennett did say he personally guaranteed their accuracy :-)

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Vee8 wrote:Post Ringo Today at 11:11 pm
No one was expecting an instant rebuttal from Tony, however the speed with which he was happy to agree with C.Edwards ludicrous assertion that 'Exposing The Myths' is "incredibly flimsy" seemed to suggest that he wasn't planning to give it due consideration. A few weeks ago Tony seemed very keen to have his leaflet rebutted by Jayelles, but perhaps this is a little more than he had bargained for!

:s_tease
Maybe they can discuss it at this weekends "KONFERENCE" along with tearing Kate's Book to bits. It is this weekend isn't it?

Well timed and well done you guys :s_thumbsup
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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Hael » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:42 am

catkins wrote:
Vee8 wrote:Post Ringo Today at 11:11 pm
No one was expecting an instant rebuttal from Tony, however the speed with which he was happy to agree with C.Edwards ludicrous assertion that 'Exposing The Myths' is "incredibly flimsy" seemed to suggest that he wasn't planning to give it due consideration. A few weeks ago Tony seemed very keen to have his leaflet rebutted by Jayelles, but perhaps this is a little more than he had bargained for!

:s_tease
Maybe they can discuss it at this weekends "KONFERENCE" along with tearing Kate's Book to bits. It is this weekend isn't it?

Well timed and well done you guys :s_thumbsup
Is the stalkathon pitchforkathon conference still going ahead?
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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by catkins » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:51 am

Hael wrote:
catkins wrote:
Vee8 wrote:Post Ringo Today at 11:11 pm
No one was expecting an instant rebuttal from Tony, however the speed with which he was happy to agree with C.Edwards ludicrous assertion that 'Exposing The Myths' is "incredibly flimsy" seemed to suggest that he wasn't planning to give it due consideration. A few weeks ago Tony seemed very keen to have his leaflet rebutted by Jayelles, but perhaps this is a little more than he had bargained for!

:s_tease
Maybe they can discuss it at this weekends "KONFERENCE" along with tearing Kate's Book to bits. It is this weekend isn't it?

Well timed and well done you guys :s_thumbsup
Is the stalkathon pitchforkathon conference still going ahead?
Haven't heard otherwise..............unless he is busy crapping himself.. :s_dunno
Madeleine McCann- Abducted May 2007 from Praia Da Luz, Algarve, Portugal.
DCI Redwood of Scotland Yard - stated that Madeleine could still be found - alive.
https://www.facebook.com/Official.Find. ... ign?_rdr=p

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