Exposing the Myths - Rebuttal "50 facts" leaflet

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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Cath » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:58 am

Now why is it that TB can't reply to the rebuttal?
In fact why would HE reply?
Isn't he pretending there's a group, no part of the MF, who wrote the leaflet? So how about the other members?
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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Jayelles » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:01 am

I can sense an emergency agenda.

We've had chris.hatton (aka C EDwards methinks) over at PFA telling us that

a) our rebuttal is "riddled with biased reporting, inaccuracies and selective journalism"

and that

b) we failed to prove that the McCanns statements were true....

Completely missing the point that we aren't endeavouring to prove any such thing! Just that they didn't change their stories and that their statements weren't contradictory!

No wonder goonery thrives :s_bored

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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Jayelles » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:03 am

Cath wrote:Now why is it that TB can't reply to the rebuttal?
In fact why would HE reply?
Isn't he pretending there's a group, no part of the MF, who wrote the leaflet? So how about the other members?
Visiting Mummy?

Nah, he will attempt to reply. However, we will NOT accept anything less than a fully sourced rebuttal of the rebuttal eh folks?

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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by catkins » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:20 am

I think he'll try to be dismissive of it.....and find excuses not to answer it.I mean what can he say against it? Its the truth and he doesn't like the truth to be pointed out to him......WANKER !
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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Alibongo » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:03 am

An improved second edition

Post Tony Bennett Today at 12:06 am

Ringo wrote:It's a 50 plus page response to your leaflet, with sources and referenced back-up running to many more pages Tony and make the point most convincingly indeed that virtually all your 50 Facts are false, innacurate or misleading. Do you really not have the time or energy to defend yourself against this? Perhaps you have less confidence in your leaflet now that you have seen this.


Well, much of our energy in recent weeks has gone into distributing the leaflet, even to places where apparently folk like Edward Smethurst and Brian Kennedy have rushed to the front desk at Greater Manchester Police to complain that the leaflet is 'harassing' them [by the way, two weeks later, I haven't had a 6am dawn 'knock at the door'].

It's going well, though extra distributors are always welcome.

Maybe as we gear up for a second edition we shall be able to take account of Jayelles' suggested improvements.


P.S. I haven't actually seen any '50-page plus' response, can you ask Jayelles to send it to me, or at least tell me where I can find it, thanks!
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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Cath » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:07 am

Jayelles wrote:
Cath wrote:Now why is it that TB can't reply to the rebuttal?
In fact why would HE reply?
Isn't he pretending there's a group, no part of the MF, who wrote the leaflet? So how about the other members?
Visiting Mummy?

Nah, he will attempt to reply. However, we will NOT accept anything less than a fully sourced rebuttal of the rebuttal eh folks?
Hear hear.

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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by urcrazy » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:08 am

the twat.

He doesnt get it!
Scotland Yard detectives believe Madeleine was abducted in "a criminal act by a stranger"

No Janine you poor deluded muppet, I am NOT John Lowe.
And neither, thankfully, are you.

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Post by Cath » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:15 am

Maybe as we gear up for a second edition we shall be able to take account of Jayelles' suggested improvements.


P.S. I haven't actually seen any '50-page plus' response, can you ask Jayelles to send it to me, or at least tell me where I can find it, thanks!


:s_mad :s_mad :s_mad :s_mad

So he has been distributing leaflets, has he?

The link is posted, so why does he pretend he doesn't know where to find it?
Jay, don't sent him anything, don't reply to his emails either. Let's keep this in the open, not in a private discussion. You know what he's like, he'll edit anything you write and take it out of context.

Suggested improvements? Is he crazy??????? :s_crazy
That's an example of what I meant.

Fridge magnet on it's way Tony.
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Reason: Improved suggestions lol corrected that. It was late... or was it early?
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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Jayelles » Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:01 pm

LOL. Don't worry. I have absolutely no intention of engaging in any provate discussions with the goon. Nor do I have any intention of responsng to any of his requests for information.

Suggested improvements indeed.

He reminds me of some of the awful entrants for X-Factor and Britains's Got Talent who perform excruciatingly in front of incredulous judges who say No! No! No! and their response is to ask "will I sing a different song then?"

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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by sidmouth » Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:24 pm

So he has no concerns that he is busy distributing a leaflet that is incorrect and misleading? so he is still going ahead with that even though there is information to prove he is wrong.

And there you have it, rather than check his accuracy he is ignoring it and going ahead with his leaflets.

I do wonder if this rebuttal will be any good in the future for CR?????

Maybe worthwhile keeping his responses with a screenshot to show he was allowed a chance to retract his leaflet when show it was full of holes. :s_yes

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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Jayelles » Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:33 pm

sidmouth wrote:So he has no concerns that he is busy distributing a leaflet that is incorrect and misleading? so he is still going ahead with that even though there is information to prove he is wrong.

And there you have it, rather than check his accuracy he is ignoring it and going ahead with his leaflets.

I do wonder if this rebuttal will be any good in the future for CR?????

Maybe worthwhile keeping his responses with a screenshot to show he was allowed a chance to retract his leaflet when show it was full of holes. :s_yes
That's OK Sid, his actions amd reactions are being recorded. The fact that within hours of being told that 54% of his "facts" were false, he was defiantly touting said leaflet on Twitter will be of great interest to a certain audience.

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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by urcrazy » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:27 pm

But he will NOT put his head above the parapet to debate the obvious, disgusting lies that constitute their 'research'!!

WHERE ARE YOUR BUG GUNS WITH THE GUTS TO TRY TO DEMOLISH THE WIKI?

YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T DON'T YOU?
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Scotland Yard detectives believe Madeleine was abducted in "a criminal act by a stranger"

No Janine you poor deluded muppet, I am NOT John Lowe.
And neither, thankfully, are you.

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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by jjbd » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:31 pm

they have never had big guns - just lots a little water pistols.

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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Truthiness2 » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:32 pm

jjbd wrote:they have never had big guns - just lots a little water pistols.


And we know what they fill them up with don't we?
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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by jjbd » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:45 pm

Truthiness2 wrote:
jjbd wrote:they have never had big guns - just lots a little water pistols.


And we know what they fill them up with don't we?
is it salty? (so I have heard)

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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Truthiness2 » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:51 pm

jjbd wrote:
Truthiness2 wrote:
jjbd wrote:they have never had big guns - just lots a little water pistols.


And we know what they fill them up with don't we?
is it salty? (so I have heard)
:s_omg :s_omg :s_dunno :s_dunno :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by jjbd » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:53 pm

do words fail you? lol

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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Truthiness2 » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:57 pm

jjbd wrote:do words fail you? lol
The pictures in my head rendered me speechless. :s_biggrin
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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by jjbd » Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:06 pm

Truthiness2 wrote:
jjbd wrote:do words fail you? lol
The pictures in my head rendered me speechless. :s_biggrin
that's the sort of woman I like.

cath pass my coat please.

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Re: Madeleine McCann - Exposing the Myths

Post by Truthiness2 » Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:15 pm

jjbd wrote:
Truthiness2 wrote:
jjbd wrote:do words fail you? lol
The pictures in my head rendered me speechless. :s_biggrin
that's the sort of woman I like.

cath pass my coat please.
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