Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Hael » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:34 am

Judge Masipa stresses that sentencing decision is "mine and mine alone".
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Hael » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:37 am

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Masipa making clear her task is not an easy one: "There may be more than one appropriate sentence in a particular case." #OscarPistorius
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Judge reads case law that sentencing is "subjective", sentencing judge has "wide discretion". #OscarPistorius
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Masipa quotes case law: "Sentencing at the best of times is an imperfect and imprecise procedure." She knows she won't please everyone.
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Judge Masipa looks at mitigation arguments: "The accused had lost his love relationship, his career and his friends..." #OscarPistorius
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Chinagirl » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:38 am

Glad you're here, Hael! My live feed isn't working ....
[T]hose children were left alone and because of that fact one of them disappeared. (Fatima de Oliveira Esteves)

Wrong.
It's because someone took her.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Hael » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:39 am

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Judge notes the recommendation for a three-year correctional supervision sentence and community service. #OscarPistorius
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Hael » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:43 am

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I'm outside court. The crowds have started singing as Judge Masipa starts handing down her sentence inside #OscarPistorius
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Judge Masipa looks at the evidence of Peet Van Zyl, Pistorius's agent, about his charity work as well as his stellar athletic career.
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Judge is rattling through the witnesses and now on to the prosecution side - could #OscarPistorius know his fate within the hour?
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Hael » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:43 am

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Judge Masipa sums up Kim Martin's evidence about Steenkamp: "She was a happy person, good in front of the camera, loved her family."
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Hael » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:45 am

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Judge Masipa now describes Kim Martin's account of hearing about Steenkamp's death."The deceased's father suffered a stroke after her death"
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The court is packed - police lining every wall, along with civilian court staff who've come in for the biggest moment in this epic trial.
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#PistoriusTrial This whole trial has lasted twice as long as the relationship between Reeva Steenkamp and Oscar Pistorius
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Hael » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:47 am

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The judge sums up the evidence of the head of correctional services dept who said they could without doubt house him appropriately.
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Judge Masipa pauses then moves to the personal circs of OP. "The accused is 27 years old, a double amputee, single with no dependents."
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Hael » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:53 am

Judge has accepted Head of Correctional Facilities testimony as true and helpful. Mrs Vergeer's evidence was seen by the Judge as unhelpful, unprofessional...she had nothing good to say about Mrs Vergeer.
Judge is convinced the correctional services is suitable for a disabled person.
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Hael » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:56 am

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Judge says what lots were thinking: "I was not impressed at all by the evidence of Mrs Vergeer as a witness".
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Mrs Vergeer was the defence witness who described appalling prison conditions. Judge says it was "slapdash and unhelpful". #OscarPistorius
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Judge says Mrs Vergeer's poor testimony was "disturbing" given her long experience in the field. #OscarPistorius
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In the first indication of where she might be going,judge now praises the evidence of the head of prison services,says she found him helpful
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Judge: "I have no hesitation in accepting his evidence (prisons chief) as true and reliable–he answered questions honestly." #OscarPistorius
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Masipa: "I am satisfied that the correctional services department is equipped to deal with inmates with special needs." #OscarPistorius
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Judge says she wouldn't dictate the circs of any prison sentence,since that's correctional services job &they're guided by the constitution
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Chinagirl » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:56 am

He's going to prison .....
[T]hose children were left alone and because of that fact one of them disappeared. (Fatima de Oliveira Esteves)

Wrong.
It's because someone took her.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Hael » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:57 am

Chinagirl wrote:He's going to prison .....
Looks like it.
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Hael » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:58 am

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Judge says "were the accused to find himself" in the situation where he's not happy w prison conditions, he cd also seek redress from court
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Judge giving evidence of the head of correctional services the most attention of all- is this an indication she will hand down prison time?
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Hael » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:59 am

"placing an over emphasis on the accused vulnerability..." she goes on to say.
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

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Judge also rejects concerns raised by the defence legal team about Pistorius mental health in prison, says resources can be found to help
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Judge: "I have no reason to believe that the accused would present the DCS with an insurmountable challenge." #OscarPistorius
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Judge says that if a pregnant woman can be sentenced to prison, so can #OscarPistorius
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Judge: "It would be a sad day for this country if an impression were to be created if there was one law for the poor...."
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Hael » Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:02 am

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Judge: ".... and disadvantage and another for the rich and famous." Judge says she felt "uneasy" about the overemphasis on OP's disability.
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Masipa: “Yes the accused is vulnerable but he also has excellent coping skills, thanks to his mother…”
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

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Judge moves to the events of that night: "Using a lethal weapon, the accused fired not one but four shots into the toilet." #OscarPistorius
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Hael » Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:05 am

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Judge: "He knew the toilet was a small cubicle and there was no room for escape for the person behind the door." #OscarPistorius
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Judge: "The accused had been trained in the use of and handling of firearms. In my view, that is very aggravating." #OscarPistorius
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Masipa:"This court accepts as a mitigating factor the conduct of Pistorius after the event which indicates he wanted the deceased to live."
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

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Everyone outside court gripped by Judge Masipa. Even the ever-persistent car guards are huddled around the TVs #OscarPistorius
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Hael » Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:06 am

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All sounds ominous for #Pistorius Judge accepts #Pistorius was guilty of “gross negligence that bordered on [murder] dolus eventualis”
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Hael » Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:06 am

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Judge: "The interests of society demands that those who commit crimes be punished and in deserving cases that they be punished severely."
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Hael » Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:07 am

Judge addressing retribution, vengeance and punishment.
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

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Judge sounds caution:"What may appear to be justice to t uninformed general public however may not necessarily be justice" #OscarPistorius
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Judge also says the uninformed public "may not know the different between punishment and vengeance", but there's an important distinction.
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Judge quotes the "eye for an eye" and leaves unspoken "will leave us all blind".
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Hael » Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:12 am

Moving on to conclusion....
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Re: Oscar Pistorius South Africa murder trial set for March

Post by Hael » Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:13 am

Degree of capability the accused exhibited. Consequences of accused negligibly cant be ignored.
The trolls funding a shamed coppers right to lie about Kate and Gerry McCann are a new level of weirdo.[omitted] they may have destroyed all hope for good.Talking up conspiracy theories is one thing.Wrecking the search for an abducted child is another.-The Sun

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