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Post by sidmouth » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:53 pm

I wouldn't have blamed her if she had of been paid. I have no doubts that the sister has bad to pay for the funeral and any bills left as Butler took her parents money. I don't see anything wrong in that personally

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Post by Mobyra » Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:09 pm

Nice picture of key founding members of the Madeleine Foundation - they could use it in their PR

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Post by Truthiness2 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:48 pm

From JAT:

Interesting bit of gossip about Butler in the comments:

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/maidstone/n ... ann-30476/

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You are of course entitled to your opinion based on the limited information you have read. People with demential rely on carers for basic needs, without which squalor will rapidly ensue. This person was trusted by the rest of her family, and paid by social services/government to undertake the care. She willingly committed to caring for them. She then made a conscious and calculated decision to abandon and neglect her parents for 5 weeks. At the very least she had a duty of care to inform social services that she was going on holiday and to arrange alternative care. She did NOTHING. She also chose not to inform her other family members. She then proceeded to lie under oath and say her elderly (and now deceased Aunt)had been looking after them. Her Aunt at the time was herself in her 80's, in care and unable to leave her room! As to inheritance, fortunately Deborah was caught, stopped, and brought to justice before she spent her parents entire money. Money which is needed to ensure her father receives the proper care she so abismally failed to provide.



Someone seems to know and loathe her. So, Butler tried to blame someone else? Not surprising.

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Dare we ask whether the Charity Walk money actually went to the charity or did that find its way to her bank account too? If she can thieve from flesh and blood she has no morals.

Whether ill or not there is no excuse and she should have been locked up. Application of the law is the problem here and the judge was far far too lenient. I hope she gets hounded by the media for a comment, maybe a few leaflets around Allington along the lines of "Watch out Watch out there's a thief about, do YOU know this face?" might make her realise how much she is and always will be reviled.

$€um of the earth.

I would think it's a safe bet she pocketed whatever money the Stalkerwalk raised. And yes, she should have been jailed. She probably turned on the waterworks for the judge.
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Post by Truthiness2 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:07 pm

She lied under oath?

Perjury?
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Post by catkins » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:05 pm

Gobilina wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rents.html
Ripped them off and left them in squalor...

OMG !!!!!! We guessed she was upto no good.......but dear God....to treat her defence less parents like that is disgusting and horrendous.....she should have been imprisoned....Callous bitch !! :s_mad
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Post by urcrazy » Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:59 pm

This callous, horrible woman has returned to twitter as DaftNelly.

I don't think she's daft, I think she's pretty bent.

I also think they know who she is and are deliberately giving her a way back in to the haters club. Shame on them!!!
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Post by Daffodil53 » Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:41 pm

Is it really Butler/Carlisle? She has a barefaced cheek showing her ugly face again in any guise :s_mad

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Post by urcrazy » Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:50 pm

From years of interacting with Da Butla on various fora, I can recognise her sentence construction, such as it is, her punctuation, her attempts at distraction, her focus on her as being an important player, her claims to have 'saved everything'.

I fully expected her to return eventually. What else does she have?
Scotland Yard detectives believe Madeleine was abducted in "a criminal act by a stranger"

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Post by catkins » Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:05 pm

She really does have a mental problem that one.....she needs psychiatric help !!
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Post by tigerloaf » Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:14 pm

Interesting that having had no interaction with this new Butler account, I go to look and find myself blocked. Newbies don't block people for no reason.

Seriously the woman is insane. One hundred and twenty six thousand tweets and almost nine thousand pictures on her old account and so desperate to continue her stalking/trolling that even when proven to be a vile despicable and evil person who stole from her own parents and was prepared to see them die so that she could enjoy herself on the monies stolen from them she cannot wait to get back and continue her sick online behaviour.

The fact that the anti-McCanns are happy to see the return of this scum among their numbers is proof positive that they are without morals. Her return to her position within the stalking, hater anti McCanns simply tells the world what kind of people they are. They welcome p.a.e.d.o.philes, parent abusers, drunks, criminals of every kind among their number so long as they toe the party line of hating the Drs McCann. Sick perverts the lot of them.
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Post by Cath » Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:32 pm

Well said Tiger. :s_thumbsup
Daffodil53 wrote:Is it really Butler/Carlisle? She has a barefaced cheek showing her ugly face again in any guise :s_mad
The woman has no shame.
She is accusing (without any evidence) all kind of people of committing all kind of crimes whilst she herself is the one who was charged and convicted for a crime. She should have been sent to jail.
And in stead of spending time on the internet stalking people, she'd better start finding a job or selling her assets to pay back to her parents what she stole from them. :s_mad :s_mad :s_mad
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Post by Alibongo » Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:45 pm

I can think of 18.000 reasons why butler should hang her head in shame!
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Post by urcrazy » Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:06 pm

After denying she is Butler she then tweets to this (locked) account

"@DaftNelly: @Shelleybean21 Thanks for the follow but blocking the trolls currently whilst they're looked at #McCann"
Scotland Yard detectives believe Madeleine was abducted in "a criminal act by a stranger"

No Janine you poor deluded muppet, I am NOT John Lowe.
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Post by Truthiness2 » Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:24 pm

tigerloaf wrote:Interesting that having had no interaction with this new Butler account, I go to look and find myself blocked. Newbies don't block people for no reason.

Seriously the woman is insane. One hundred and twenty six thousand tweets and almost nine thousand pictures on her old account and so desperate to continue her stalking/trolling that even when proven to be a vile despicable and evil person who stole from her own parents and was prepared to see them die so that she could enjoy herself on the monies stolen from them she cannot wait to get back and continue her sick online behaviour.

The fact that the anti-McCanns are happy to see the return of this scum among their numbers is proof positive that they are without morals. Her return to her position within the stalking, hater anti McCanns simply tells the world what kind of people they are. They welcome p.a.e.d.o.philes, parent abusers, drunks, criminals of every kind among their number so long as they toe the party line of hating the Drs McCann. Sick perverts the lot of them.
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Post by Randomleigh » Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:55 pm

Butler is without shame or morals, but I guess we knew that already when she was handed a 2 year suspended prison sentence for stealing from her vulnerable dependant parents.

And if that's not bad enough, she's picked up exactly where she left off on twitter using a completely transparent new account.
She's utterly disgusting IMO and if she had one shred of decency she'd have kept herself out of "public" for a very long time.

No morals, no self respect, certainly no respect for others, including those who she's supposed to love the most.
What an utterly repugnant excuse for a human being she is.

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Post by Chinagirl » Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:12 pm

No morals, no self respect, certainly no respect for others, including those who she's supposed to love the most.
What an utterly repugnant excuse for a human being she is.


Very well said. Shameless, low-class scum. :s_mad
[T]hose children were left alone and because of that fact one of them disappeared. (Fatima de Oliveira Esteves)

Wrong.
It's because someone took her.

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Funeral directors stopped for McDonald’s with body in hearse View 48 comments James Hockaday Wednesday 11 Nov 2020 3:52 pm 9.4k SHARES Deborah Carlisle shared photos of the funeral worker leaving a McDonalds (Picture: Kennedy News) A mum-of-two has branded undertakers ‘disrespectful’ after staff stopped to eat McDonald’s with a dead woman still in the hearse. Deborah Carlisle, 57, says she cried in anger when she spotted the funeral workers eating a Maccies breakfast last week in Aylesford, Kent. She says everyone in the car park ‘stood there with their jaws open’ and ‘couldn’t believe what they were seeing’. Deborah publicly shamed them by sharing photos showing a suited man carrying a McDonald’s takeaway bag towards the hearse and insisted that the deceased woman’s family shouldn’t be charged. But Indian Funeral Directors said one of their workers is diabetic and had permission from grieving relatives to eat at the fast-food restaurant to stop his blood sugar levels dropping. The firm’s head, Sanjay Shah, branded Deborah a ‘busybody’ who had ’caused havoc’ with her repeated calls and said the deceased’s family laughed off claims they should be refunded. But Deborah, from Boughton Monchelsea, Kent, was not convinced and claimed she had had ‘no sympathy’ even if the man did have diabetes, because ‘other people can manage their disabilities’. Deborah said people were stood ‘with their jaws open’ and ‘couldn’t believe what they were seeing’ (Picture: Kennedy News and Media) The eyewitness has complained to the directors on the phone and has demanded the family are given a refunded (Picture: Kennedy News and Media) She said: ‘The whole car park was stood there with their jaws open. They couldn’t believe what they were seeing. ‘I thought maybe this was the person’s last wish, but I watched and one of them get out, walked in there, came out with the bag and dumped it on the dashboard of the hearse. ‘They stayed and started munching. I walked over and both of them were holding their burgers and I said it’s disrespectful. Disgusting. “What the hell do you think you’re doing?” ‘Imagine if one of the funeral cortege had come in to get a bottle of water or something and seen the coffin and them munching burgers. ‘When I called, I told them I think he should waive the fee for the customer. All day I was in total shock and I cried over it. It’s disgusting.’ But funeral director Sanjay Shah has dismissed Deborah as a ‘busybody’ and said the family allowed the worker to stop off for food due to his diabetes (Picture: Kennedy News) Deborah says he doesn’t believe Indian Funeral Directors’s explanation (Picture: Kennedy News) Deborah said the undertakers waited in the busy car park for around 30 minutes before they drove off to present the coffin at the deceased’s family’s house. She admitted even calling other local funeral directors to tell them about what happened before hearing the firm’s explanation. Sanjay said Deborah called numerous times and claims she maintained her ‘rude’ stance, even after he explained the stop-off was for ‘medical reasons’. He added: ‘She’s a busybody. She should mind her own business. We’ve done everything with the permission on the son and I don’t know why she’s pulling the strings. ‘She’s definitely not a nice lady. The way she’s spoken to me and threatened me. She said she’s going to be shutting my business down. MORE: MCDONALD'S Man shares tip to get a McDonald's Big Mac and fries half price every time Creme Egg McFlurry returns to McDonald's this week McDonald's opening times for Good Friday, Easter Sunday and Easter Monday ‘She’s been creating a big havoc in our office. She’d spoken to a few people until I got the call and I told her she didn’t know the full story, so I explained it to her. ‘We’re a respectable company. We’ve been doing funerals for 31 years. We are quite popular with the whole Asian and Indian community because we provide a special service. ‘Both of our staff woke up at 5am in the morning, cleaned the cars, loaded the coffin and had to leave very early because we had to take the coffin to the family’s house first. ‘To beat the traffic, we got to Aylesford early. One of our staff is a diabetic so they spoke with the son of the deceased and asked if it’s okay if they can have a bite to eat. Couple who bought house next to A446 complain about noise from dual carriageway ‘The family straight away said we can do that and said “there’s a McDonald’s off the motorway”, then you can make your way to us. They asked if they had stopped when we got there, and we told them and yes. ‘This lady tells us we are going to do the funeral free of charge and I’ve spoken with the son and he started laughing. He asked me ‘who is this lady?’ and said he will not accept it.’ But after hearing Sanjay’s explanation, Deborah remained unconvinced and still said that their behaviour was unacceptable. She added: ‘It’s absolute bulls**t. Whatever type of diabetes he is, he knows when to have his food to avoid going into a coma. ‘Take a packed lunch and eat it discreetly, or buy your McDonald’s and go down a lane. ‘I don’t have any sympathy. I’ve got friends that have diabetes and they manage it. Both of them were stuffing their faces, not just one. ‘If they’ve driven all the way from London without eating the correct food to stop them from going into a coma, well they shouldn’t be driving anyway.’ Deborah posted her snaps of the incident to Facebook along with a link to the busy funeral director’s website. MORE: UK Queen shares new pictures of Prince Philip showing commitment to Commonwealth 'Axe-wielding man' arrested by armed police outside Buckingham Palace Boy died after falling during football game 'wearing trainers that were too big' She wrote: ‘Disrespectful. A hearse complete with coffin wreaths and flowers pars up to get a McDonald’s. People were astounded. ‘Waited to check if they actually ate it and told him it’s disgusting and disrespectful while he munched on his burger. ‘Then he drove off the wrong way round the car park to avoid my car.’ Deborah was a founder of the Madeleine Foundation, which handed out leaflets suggesting Madeleine McCann was not abducted.


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This woman who left her parents sat in their own excrement with no food needs to take a good long look in the mirror.
Parent-blaming is all-too-common these days, and usually the point is to make other parents feel better about their own parenting skills

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"A professor of mine used to say 'I have as a pet a coprophagic beetle, who eats only dung. His antennae quiver when he detects the presence of his food.'" - Edison, English-language Wikipedia Admin

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Post by Carana » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:57 am

Does the Metro pay a few quid for a story?
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Post by Carana » Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:06 am

Alibongo wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:11 am
This woman who left her parents sat in their own excrement with no food needs to take a good long look in the mirror.
Is this the same person formerly known as Debbie Butler? Seems so, according to the picture in the Metro.

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/kent-mes ... 7814874195
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Post by Alibongo » Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:17 am

Butler/Carlisle one and the same person Carana
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Post by Winter » Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:31 am

Alibongo wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:11 am
This woman who left her parents sat in their own excrement with no food needs to take a good long look in the mirror.
Good God, and she has the cheek to call out these people :s_mad

McCanns' troll stole £18,000 from her own parents: Woman who accused Kate and Gerry of neglect left dementia suffering mother and father alone for five weeks while she went on holiday

Debbie Butler distributed inflammatory leaflets in McCanns' home village

Suggested the couple were responsible for their daughter's disappearance

She was supposed to be caring for her parents, Alan and Dorothy Johnson

But instead she stole their money and used cash to fund trip to Spain

Her 74-year-old mother died after being left helpless for more than a month

Butler's father, a Royal Marines veteran, was found covered in own filth

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... rents.html
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Post by Whiterose » Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:13 am

How anyone could treat their parents in that way is beyond me. They relied on her and all she did was abuse that trust. What a nasty piece of work she is. :s_sad
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