British cops quiz Gypsy family
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British cops quiz Gypsy family
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... iz-6126420
Please god let them find Ben and end the torture for Kerry and her family
Please god let them find Ben and end the torture for Kerry and her family
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Always hope there
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Better late than never.
Out of interest I wonder (even though they were appallingly bad when Ben disappeared)....how co operative the Greek Police are with the UK.
Out of interest I wonder (even though they were appallingly bad when Ben disappeared)....how co operative the Greek Police are with the UK.
Madeleine McCann- Abducted May 2007 from Praia Da Luz, Algarve, Portugal.
DCI Redwood of Scotland Yard - stated that Madeleine could still be found - alive.
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DCI Redwood of Scotland Yard - stated that Madeleine could still be found - alive.
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Rogério Alves says claims made by Gonçalo Amaral are a 'waste of time'
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Incrediblebut there have been no arrests and there don’t seem to be any leads.
"It seems the police have done all they can - which isn’t the case with Ben.
"There is still hope for Ben. Even this year, police have uncovered information that has led to new lines of inquiry."
I'm speechless
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"there is a big difference between a few sordid insults, and publicly accusing someone of committing a serious crime - which is a crime in itself" AnnaEsse (Oh the irony!)
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Heartbreaking for Kerry and family.
I think it's impossible to compare the current efforts being made in money terms because Madeleine is still a minor and highly vulnerable so it is right that every stop should be pulled for her. Ben, if alive could be the father of school-age kids.
It's also different times. The Mccanns have been tireless in their efforts to push Madeleine's disappearance on every media available including internet. I don't think there was internet when Ben went missing and journalism wasn't so sensational as it is now.
I think the Star newspaper are playing Kerry in that article. She shouldn't let them do that.
I think it's impossible to compare the current efforts being made in money terms because Madeleine is still a minor and highly vulnerable so it is right that every stop should be pulled for her. Ben, if alive could be the father of school-age kids.
It's also different times. The Mccanns have been tireless in their efforts to push Madeleine's disappearance on every media available including internet. I don't think there was internet when Ben went missing and journalism wasn't so sensational as it is now.
I think the Star newspaper are playing Kerry in that article. She shouldn't let them do that.
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Spot on Rob.
What amazes me is that John O'Connor and Kerry seem to have intimate knowledge of Operation Grange.
What amazes me is that John O'Connor and Kerry seem to have intimate knowledge of Operation Grange.
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How do you mean?Truthiness2 wrote:Spot on Rob.
What amazes me is that John O'Connor and Kerry seem to have intimate knowledge of Operation Grange.
PS I don't suggest that police should not try to find out who took baby Ben. Of course that is a given. But priority should be given to finding a vulnerable child. I also don't think the two cases can be compared in money terms. The Mccanns went straight into fight mode -fundraising, making their own investigation and pushing for legislation changes to help with similar cases in the future. They got the portugal police files and hired detectives and then lobbied for a British investigation to look into what they had found.
They were immediately proactive and pushy. Kerry dealt with it differently. She wrote in her book about how she went off the rails and fell to bits. Thats totally understandable because no two people will deal with a situation like this in the same way. But it is wrong to criticize the Mccanns just because they fought tooth and nail and exploited every avenue available to them. Their perseverance and fight instinct paid off because they got Operation Grange.
I think that Operation Grange wouldn't be continuing if there was no good reason to invest in it. There is a big silence around it and my guess is that they have got good leads which might be highly sensitive/ Maybe child trafficking racket. Who knows but the investigators who are keeping their mouths shut?
Kerry should keep fighting but not complain about the Mccanns who fought tooth and nail for Madeleine's investigation. They deserve it and have paid a high price for it because they get constantly attacked for not giving up on Madeleine.
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I mean that she states, like O'Connor, that Op Grange have no leads and are going nowhere. How would Kerry or O'Connor know that?
Is she privy to Operation Grange files? Is he?
Just because they haven't arrested anyone, it doesn't mean they are not going to. She's claiming knowledge she doesn't have.
UK police are looking for Madeleine AND Ben. I don't see the need to attack the search for Madeleine. It's not money that will find them, it's good detective work. Something that was missing in both original cases.
Madeleine is still a minor and possibly being held against her will. She's a missing child.
Ben is now an adult. Not a missing child.
I fully support the search for both, and for all missing children.
Is she privy to Operation Grange files? Is he?
Just because they haven't arrested anyone, it doesn't mean they are not going to. She's claiming knowledge she doesn't have.
UK police are looking for Madeleine AND Ben. I don't see the need to attack the search for Madeleine. It's not money that will find them, it's good detective work. Something that was missing in both original cases.
Madeleine is still a minor and possibly being held against her will. She's a missing child.
Ben is now an adult. Not a missing child.
I fully support the search for both, and for all missing children.
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Rob1 wrote:Heartbreaking for Kerry and family.
I think it's impossible to compare the current efforts being made in money terms because Madeleine is still a minor and highly vulnerable so it is right that every stop should be pulled for her. Ben, if alive could be the father of school-age kids.
It's also different times. The Mccanns have been tireless in their efforts to push Madeleine's disappearance on every media available including internet. I don't think there was internet when Ben went missing and journalism wasn't so sensational as it is now.
I think the Star newspaper are playing Kerry in that article. She shouldn't let them do that.
Agree Rob......it is sad that Ms.Needham didn't get the help from the UK and Greek police that she should have had back then. Appalling really........ But I think apart from Ben being an adult now, it boils down to the fact that Madeleine's case HAS been running from the get go....(OK not brilliantly from the Portuguese side)....but kept going none the less.
It's not as if 8 years down the line the UK police are suddenly looking into it is it?
Madeleine McCann- Abducted May 2007 from Praia Da Luz, Algarve, Portugal.
DCI Redwood of Scotland Yard - stated that Madeleine could still be found - alive.
https://www.facebook.com/Official.Find. ... ign?_rdr=p
DCI Redwood of Scotland Yard - stated that Madeleine could still be found - alive.
https://www.facebook.com/Official.Find. ... ign?_rdr=p
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Truthiness2 wrote:I mean that she states, like O'Connor, that Op Grange have no leads and are going nowhere. How would Kerry or O'Connor know that?
Is she privy to Operation Grange files? Is he?
Just because they haven't arrested anyone, it doesn't mean they are not going to. She's claiming knowledge she doesn't have.
UK police are looking for Madeleine AND Ben. I don't see the need to attack the search for Madeleine. It's not money that will find them, it's good detective work. Something that was missing in both original cases.
Madeleine is still a minor and possibly being held against her will. She's a missing child.
Ben is now an adult. Not a missing child.
I fully support the search for both, and for all missing children.
They are making assumptions I think. Just because the police are professionally keeping silent and no arrests made public, they conclude that this means no progress. More likely the fact that the investigation continues with funding means that progress is being made, just in silence.
They won't be paying nearly 40 specialists to twiddle their fingers.
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No its not. Operation Grange has been going for several years now. It's also possible that the investigators are collecting intelligence which might help solve other crimes as an investigation of this size may spread many tentacles.catkins wrote:Rob1 wrote:Heartbreaking for Kerry and family.
I think it's impossible to compare the current efforts being made in money terms because Madeleine is still a minor and highly vulnerable so it is right that every stop should be pulled for her. Ben, if alive could be the father of school-age kids.
It's also different times. The Mccanns have been tireless in their efforts to push Madeleine's disappearance on every media available including internet. I don't think there was internet when Ben went missing and journalism wasn't so sensational as it is now.
I think the Star newspaper are playing Kerry in that article. She shouldn't let them do that.
Agree Rob......it is sad that Ms.Needham didn't get the help from the UK and Greek police that she should have had back then. Appalling really........ But I think apart from Ben being an adult now, it boils down to the fact that Madeleine's case HAS been running from the get go....(OK not brilliantly from the Portuguese side)....but kept going none the less.
It's not as if 8 years down the line the UK police are suddenly looking into it is it?
It would be wonderful if both families could get closure. I think the approach needs to be different though as Ben (if alive) is now an adult who may be in a position to make decisions indepdent of his abductors while Madeleine (if alive) almost definately won't be.
Hope is important because it can make the present moment less difficult to bear. If we believe that tomorrow will be better, we can bear a hardship today. Thich Nhat Hanh
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Ben Needham â€@FindBenNeedham 2h2 hours ago
Ben Needham retweeted Daily Star
Headline a little exaggerated but read the article and you will get the point . NOT an attack on anyone
Not like the media to exaggerate is it?Ben Needham â€@FindBenNeedham 5h5 hours ago
Just to clear things up a bit.Kerry DID NOT blast the police she just said all missing children deserve the same time,funding and resources
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Rob1 wrote:No its not. Operation Grange has been going for several years now. It's also possible that the investigators are collecting intelligence which might help solve other crimes as an investigation of this size may spread many tentacles.catkins wrote:Rob1 wrote:Heartbreaking for Kerry and family.
I think it's impossible to compare the current efforts being made in money terms because Madeleine is still a minor and highly vulnerable so it is right that every stop should be pulled for her. Ben, if alive could be the father of school-age kids.
It's also different times. The Mccanns have been tireless in their efforts to push Madeleine's disappearance on every media available including internet. I don't think there was internet when Ben went missing and journalism wasn't so sensational as it is now.
I think the Star newspaper are playing Kerry in that article. She shouldn't let them do that.
Agree Rob......it is sad that Ms.Needham didn't get the help from the UK and Greek police that she should have had back then. Appalling really........ But I think apart from Ben being an adult now, it boils down to the fact that Madeleine's case HAS been running from the get go....(OK not brilliantly from the Portuguese side)....but kept going none the less.
It's not as if 8 years down the line the UK police are suddenly looking into it is it?
It would be wonderful if both families could get closure. I think the approach needs to be different though as Ben (if alive) is now an adult who may be in a position to make decisions indepdent of his abductors while Madeleine (if alive) almost definately won't be.
It would be wonderful if both families could get closure. I think the approach needs to be different though as Ben (if alive) is now an adult who may be in a position to make decisions indepdent of his abductors while Madeleine (if alive) almost definately won't be.
Both families do deserve release from their incredibly painful nightmare.
Madeleine McCann- Abducted May 2007 from Praia Da Luz, Algarve, Portugal.
DCI Redwood of Scotland Yard - stated that Madeleine could still be found - alive.
https://www.facebook.com/Official.Find. ... ign?_rdr=p
DCI Redwood of Scotland Yard - stated that Madeleine could still be found - alive.
https://www.facebook.com/Official.Find. ... ign?_rdr=p
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It could even be that Ben doesn't want to be found. If he has been living with a family since age two, they would be the only family he has ever known, he probably loves them as his birth parents. Could be he knows he is the Ben people are looking for but is scared in case his 'family' are arrested and he loses them.catkins wrote:Rob1 wrote:No its not. Operation Grange has been going for several years now. It's also possible that the investigators are collecting intelligence which might help solve other crimes as an investigation of this size may spread many tentacles.catkins wrote:Rob1 wrote:Heartbreaking for Kerry and family.
I think it's impossible to compare the current efforts being made in money terms because Madeleine is still a minor and highly vulnerable so it is right that every stop should be pulled for her. Ben, if alive could be the father of school-age kids.
It's also different times. The Mccanns have been tireless in their efforts to push Madeleine's disappearance on every media available including internet. I don't think there was internet when Ben went missing and journalism wasn't so sensational as it is now.
I think the Star newspaper are playing Kerry in that article. She shouldn't let them do that.
Agree Rob......it is sad that Ms.Needham didn't get the help from the UK and Greek police that she should have had back then. Appalling really........ But I think apart from Ben being an adult now, it boils down to the fact that Madeleine's case HAS been running from the get go....(OK not brilliantly from the Portuguese side)....but kept going none the less.
It's not as if 8 years down the line the UK police are suddenly looking into it is it?
It would be wonderful if both families could get closure. I think the approach needs to be different though as Ben (if alive) is now an adult who may be in a position to make decisions indepdent of his abductors while Madeleine (if alive) almost definately won't be.
It would be wonderful if both families could get closure. I think the approach needs to be different though as Ben (if alive) is now an adult who may be in a position to make decisions indepdent of his abductors while Madeleine (if alive) almost definately won't be.
Both families do deserve release from their incredibly painful nightmare.
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That's an unbearable thought but there is a precedent in America for this. A young woman who found out she had been snatched as a baby. She traced and met her birth family, but things went sour and she testified for her abductor in court.It could even be that Ben doesn't want to be found. If he has been living with a family since age two, they would be the only family he has ever known, he probably loves them as his birth parents. Could be he knows he is the Ben people are looking for but is scared in case his 'family' are arrested and he loses them.
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