Pedro, could you transcribe what Leandro says please? In Portuguese to make it easier for you. I can't understand all of it.
Cipriano videos
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And this one?
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Testing 
Parent-blaming is all-too-common these days, and usually the point is to make other parents feel better about their own parenting skills
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Alibongo wrote:Testing
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Re: Cipriano videos
inside the vÃdeos above, what is mentioned is what we all know about the Joana Cipriano´s case.
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I can understand some of the first one, including the presenter saying something about some still hopng she's still alive. Then it cuts to Leandro and I can't understand him very well. What does he say?Pedro wrote:inside the vÃdeos above, what is mentioned is what we all know about the Joana Cipriano´s case.
ETA: If you don't have time, Pedro, that's okay.
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vÃdeo 1: translation:
today in Algarve, it is three years that a child disappeared, Joana Cipriano was seen last time September 12th 2004 at the village of Figueira, was target of a media coverage unseen at that time in Portugal, but mother and uncle were condemned to 16 years in jail for the homicide of the child, but the body was never found, the family have hopes that joana is alive.
everything people say that are no proofs of homicide, everyone knows that there are no proofs of homicide, it is the only thing I want, to be certain of it, to allow to rest, alive or dead to appear,
inside the fridge, the tests carried in the fridge, failed to identify the DNA of those traces.
video2:
no one could find evidence of death, the only way is the confession of Leonor, but, it is strange, so, anyone confesses a crime, and don´t say where is the corpse?
for us, it is absolutely true that Leonor did not told where is the corpse because she doesn´t know, because she didn´t killed her daughter, assuming that she was killed, also another aspect: the defense of the arguidos have raise possibilities without evidence about photo manipulation, photos can be manipulated, but it is also possible to determined through techincal ways if they were or not manipulated, but there is one thing that cannot be manipulated: the two medical reports which are absolutely credible: the marks found in leonor´s body are not compatible with the fall in the stairs, according to what PJ told,
secondly: they are compatible with the situation of being beaten, this is the truth of the facts.
video3: about the appeals, also about PJ´s behaviour. about what could have happened.
video4:
joana had the mission of buying food. Leonor strange the delay, the owner of the shop told to Leonor that joana returned to her home directly.
the GNR took charge of the case, but 4 days later delivered it to PJ. during a week the press was in it, Leonor had been presented many interviews in tv also in newspapers, Leonor kept the version of kidnap during 11 days.
today in Algarve, it is three years that a child disappeared, Joana Cipriano was seen last time September 12th 2004 at the village of Figueira, was target of a media coverage unseen at that time in Portugal, but mother and uncle were condemned to 16 years in jail for the homicide of the child, but the body was never found, the family have hopes that joana is alive.
everything people say that are no proofs of homicide, everyone knows that there are no proofs of homicide, it is the only thing I want, to be certain of it, to allow to rest, alive or dead to appear,
inside the fridge, the tests carried in the fridge, failed to identify the DNA of those traces.
video2:
no one could find evidence of death, the only way is the confession of Leonor, but, it is strange, so, anyone confesses a crime, and don´t say where is the corpse?
for us, it is absolutely true that Leonor did not told where is the corpse because she doesn´t know, because she didn´t killed her daughter, assuming that she was killed, also another aspect: the defense of the arguidos have raise possibilities without evidence about photo manipulation, photos can be manipulated, but it is also possible to determined through techincal ways if they were or not manipulated, but there is one thing that cannot be manipulated: the two medical reports which are absolutely credible: the marks found in leonor´s body are not compatible with the fall in the stairs, according to what PJ told,
secondly: they are compatible with the situation of being beaten, this is the truth of the facts.
video3: about the appeals, also about PJ´s behaviour. about what could have happened.
video4:
joana had the mission of buying food. Leonor strange the delay, the owner of the shop told to Leonor that joana returned to her home directly.
the GNR took charge of the case, but 4 days later delivered it to PJ. during a week the press was in it, Leonor had been presented many interviews in tv also in newspapers, Leonor kept the version of kidnap during 11 days.
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Many thanks, Pedro.
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RTP: 3rd Annivesary of disappearance of Joana Cipriano
from Telejornal, RTP1, Sept. 12 2007
from Telejornal, RTP1, Sept. 12 2007
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