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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by sal » Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:57 pm

honestbroker1 wrote:
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sal wrote:
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No the rape appeal preliminary ruling will be on 6th August.

The appeal for early release from the drug offence will be lodged at the Kiel court.
He isn't serving time for the rape crime yet. That kicks in January next year.

So he should be behind bars at least until then.
...and if he wins his early parole and if the ECJ deem the rape conviction illegal?
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Post by Carana » Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:21 pm

I was wondering the same thing, Sal.
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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by jjbd » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:37 am

G-Unit
It is tiresome to have to take facts into account, I'm sure, but without an informant CB would not have attracted police attention for this crime.
Does it really have to be pointed out that CB was on amaral's radar in 2007 - don't forget - amaral who knew his van had child attractive drawings in 2007. amaral who knew that he had hippy long hair in May 2007. amaral who knew that CB was a p**do - just like 100s of others (according to amaral) around at the time. amaral who says that CB fits the profile of a suspect perfectly.

So what did amaral and the PJ do to investigate CB in 2007?

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by honestbroker1 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:54 am

jjbd wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:37 am
G-Unit
It is tiresome to have to take facts into account, I'm sure, but without an informant CB would not have attracted police attention for this crime.
Does it really have to be pointed out that CB was on amaral's radar in 2007 - don't forget - amaral who knew his van had child attractive drawings in 2007. amaral who knew that he had hippy long hair in May 2007. amaral who knew that CB was a p**do - just like 100s of others (according to amaral) around at the time. amaral who says that CB fits the profile of a suspect perfectly.

So what did amaral and the PJ do to investigate CB in 2007?
Amaral was busy following the false trail laid by Grime.

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by sal » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:12 am

Amaral is very adept at planting false trails
In 2007 there are people who claim that his figure is not with short hair. He looked like a hippie and wore long hair behind his back. And the police know that," he also shoots.
To consolidate his statements, Gonçalo Amaral himself decided to present a reconstruction of what the German would look like in the year that Maddie disappeared. Using an image of Brueckner in 2006, a year before Maddie's disappearance, and using an image manipulation program, the former PJ presented a photomontage of the suspect with long hair.
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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

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sal wrote:
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Amaral is very adept at planting false trails
In 2007 there are people who claim that his figure is not with short hair. He looked like a hippie and wore long hair behind his back. And the police know that," he also shoots.
To consolidate his statements, Gonçalo Amaral himself decided to present a reconstruction of what the German would look like in the year that Maddie disappeared. Using an image of Brueckner in 2006, a year before Maddie's disappearance, and using an image manipulation program, the former PJ presented a photomontage of the suspect with long hair.
Image

Actual image March 2007

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Acording to amaral's manipulated image May 2007

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by sal » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:53 am

:s_wink :s_thumbsup jj
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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by Whiterose » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:22 am

jj spot on!! :s_thumbsup
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Post by Whiterose » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:24 am

Jane described the man as having hair down the back of his neck, a lot of hair, she said, well CB seems to have a lot of hair on top of his head and hair down the back of his neck.
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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by sal » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:46 am

bild

by: BEN SACKpublished on
01.08.2020 - 11:52 a.m.
Grevenbroich (NRW) - Christian B. (43) is treated as a suspect in the case of the missing Maddie McCann. Christian B. was also examined as a possible suspect in the unsolved murder case of Claudia Ruf († 11), who was kidnapped in Grevenbroich in 1996 and found dead shortly thereafter.

Claudia Ruf was abused and killed in 1996

"After comparing the information obtained, it can be said that Christian B. was not in Grevenbroich at the time of the crime in the case of Claudia Ruf," says a police spokesman. In addition, a DNA comparison is said to have been negative.

The student Claudia Ruf was kidnapped, sexually abused and killed in 1996 in her home town of Grevenbroich-Hemmerden southwest of Düsseldorf. Her body was found 70 kilometers away on a dirt road in Euskirchen near Bonn.

The body of the eleven-year-old was found on a dirt road
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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

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Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:46 am
bild

by: BEN SACKpublished on
01.08.2020 - 11:52 a.m.
Grevenbroich (NRW) - Christian B. (43) is treated as a suspect in the case of the missing Maddie McCann. Christian B. was also examined as a possible suspect in the unsolved murder case of Claudia Ruf († 11), who was kidnapped in Grevenbroich in 1996 and found dead shortly thereafter.

Claudia Ruf was abused and killed in 1996

"After comparing the information obtained, it can be said that Christian B. was not in Grevenbroich at the time of the crime in the case of Claudia Ruf," says a police spokesman. In addition, a DNA comparison is said to have been negative.

The student Claudia Ruf was kidnapped, sexually abused and killed in 1996 in her home town of Grevenbroich-Hemmerden southwest of Düsseldorf. Her body was found 70 kilometers away on a dirt road in Euskirchen near Bonn.

The body of the eleven-year-old was found on a dirt road
May Claudia Ruf's true murderer be found and punished as (almost certainly he) deserves.

RIP Claudia Ruff and sincerest condolences to loved-ones and friends of Claudia Ruf.

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

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Image

Actual image Mar 2007

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Image that amaral showed - apparently from May 2007

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by sal » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:18 pm

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What a terrible translation...dolls?

He sold the vehicle to a somebody who used it for about 4 years as a party van for his family. That person happened to own a scrapyard. It looks like they drew characters all over it.
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German prosecutor says there is 'some evidence' Madeleine ...www.telegraph.co.uk › news › 2020/06/08 › german-prosecutor-says-...
8 Jun 2020 - The prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann case was investigated four ... p.a.e.dophile was used as a party bus for four years after he last used it ... The son of a scrapyard owner, who bought the van off Brückner, used it to ..

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... illed-new/
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Post by honestbroker1 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:53 pm

One of the news reports said something about an uncorroborated cadaver-dog alert.

I hope they have (or find) something more substantial than that.

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Post by sal » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:54 pm

HB can you check ^ that telegraph article to check if it mentions the van used as a party bus by new owners. thanks

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... illed-new/
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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

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sal wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:54 pm
HB can you check ^ that telegraph article to check if it mentions the van used as a party bus by new owners. thanks

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... illed-new/
German officials are still looking for a forensic breakthrough that could implicate Brückner in the disappearance, but hopes of finding anything in his old white and yellow VW T3 Westfalia campervan appeared to be dashed last night as the Telegraph discovered that more than 50 people have been in the vehicle since he last used it.

The son of a scrapyard owner, who bought the van off Brückner, used it to ferry his friends and family around the Algarve, hosting parties, drinking, smoking and sleeping in the “top of the range” vehicle.

Officers only seized it in 2019, some 12 years after it was seen around Praia da Luz when Madeleine went missing.

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by sal » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:02 pm

thanks HB
have you got the full article
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Post by honestbroker1 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:05 pm

A German prosecutor has said there is “some evidence” that Madeleine McCann was killed by the new suspect but not enough to bring him to trial.

Hans Christian Wolters said police do not have enough “hard evidence” that Christian Brückner abducted Madeleine. He appealed for anyone with information about properties where the suspect previously lived to contact police to allow them to search for Madeleine’s body.

He told Sky News: "All indication we have got that I can't tell you points in the direction that Madeleine is dead.

"We got things we cannot communicate that speak for the theory that Madeleine is dead, even if I have to admit that we don't have the body."

Mr Wolters continued: "We expect that she is dead, but we don't have enough evidence that we can get a warrant for our suspect in Germany for the murder of Madeleine McCann.

"At the moment we also don't have enough proof for a trial at court, but we have some evidence that the suspect has done the deed.

An undated photograph of 43-year-old German convict Christian Bruckner, whom investigators are treating as the main suspect in the as-yet-unsolved case of the 2007 disappearance of British child Madeleine McCann in Portugal.
An undated photograph of 43-year-old German convict Christian Bruckner, whom investigators are treating as the main suspect in the as-yet-unsolved case of the 2007 disappearance of British child Madeleine McCann in Portugal. CREDIT: Carabinieri Handout/EPA-EFE/Shutterstock
"That's why we need more information from people, especially places he has lived so we can target these places especially and search there for Madeleine."

On Monday night it was reported that British and German police are looking to speak to a former girlfriend of Brückner, who they think may hold important information about the Madeleine case.

The German woman, who is believed to have dated the 43-year-old suspect for several years, is reportedly being sought by detectives over what she may know about Brückner’s past.

It was also claimed on Monday night that the prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann was investigated over the case four years ago and ruled out by Portuguese police.

A senior Portuguese police chief, speaking to a Spanish newspaper on condition of anonymity said of Christian Brückner: “We never found strong enough reasons to charge him.”

The revelation coincided with news from Germany that authorities were distancing Brückner from two cold cases he had been linked to, including the disappearance of a six-year-old boy from a beach in Portugal.

The Telegraph can also reveal that forensic evidence from Portugal 2007 may have been destroyed or contaminated because the van owned by the German p.a.e.dophile was used as a party bus for four years after he last used it and before it was seized by police.

Detectives in France, Spain, Germany, Portugal and Belgium are sifting through cold case files involving youngsters, but there have been no major breakthroughs that link them to Brückner.

Speaking to Spanish daily newspaper ABC, the unnamed Portuguese official, who claims to still be a serving officer, but is not working on the case said: “People talk about surprises in the Madeleine McCann case with the capture of this German man, but for me it's no surprise.

“This individual was already investigated around four years ago. There's no evidence Christian Brückner is involved in her disappearance.”

German officials are still looking for a forensic breakthrough that could implicate Brückner in the disappearance, but hopes of finding anything in his old white and yellow VW T3 Westfalia campervan appeared to be dashed last night as the Telegraph discovered that more than 50 people have been in the vehicle since he last used it.

The son of a scrapyard owner, who bought the van off Brückner, used it to ferry his friends and family around the Algarve, hosting parties, drinking, smoking and sleeping in the “top of the range” vehicle.

Officers only seized it in 2019, some 12 years after it was seen around Praia da Luz when Madeleine went missing.

A photo issued by the Metropolitan Police of a VW T3 Westfalia campervan that has been linked to the suspect.
A photo issued by the Metropolitan Police of a VW T3 Westfalia campervan that has been linked to the suspect. CREDIT: PA
Dr James Barker, lecturer in forensic science at Kingston University said the sheer number of people who had been in the van “makes things a lot more complicated”.

“It makes things harder, and the longer time goes by the harder things get. If the van was in hot or wet conditions, DNA can degrade and wash away.”

Linda Brownlow, principal forensic science lecturer at the University of Greenwich added: "DNA from those 50 people could itself be left behind over the top of Madeleine’s - thereby confusing her original profile.”

In Germany, the father of Rene Hasee, a six-year-old boy, who went missing in 1996 while on holiday in the Algarve, said he had been told by the Federal Criminal Police Office in Germany that they were reopening the investigation. At that time, Brückner, just 20, was living in the region.

But on Monday (June 8), officials said they "see no new evidence or connections" between Rene's disappearance and Madeleine’s.

Police said they were "sorry" they could not find a connection and understood that Rene's father "clings to every straw" about his son's death.

In Hanover, a senior prosecutor from the public prosecutor's office was also forced to publicly state that there is “no connection” with Brückner and the murder of a prostitute in the city in 2010.

According to the Daily Mail, Brückner was a suspect into the death of Monika Pawlak, who was found dismembered ten years ago.

Brückner was required to take a DNA test in relation to the murder, the German newspaper Bild reported, but the sample came back negative.

Hanover’s senior prosecutor Thomas Klinge said: “This has been thoroughly investigated. No connection could be established."

But the allegations of wrongdoing against the career criminal with 17 convictions continue to pile up.

A former friend of Brückner, Lenta Johlitz claimed that he had a “very small” 17-year-old girlfriend when he was 37-year-old who she alleges he physically assaulted while he was living in Braunschweig

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by catkins » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:07 pm

jjbd wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:37 am
G-Unit
It is tiresome to have to take facts into account, I'm sure, but without an informant CB would not have attracted police attention for this crime.
Does it really have to be pointed out that CB was on amaral's radar in 2007 - don't forget - amaral who knew his van had child attractive drawings in 2007. amaral who knew that he had hippy long hair in May 2007. amaral who knew that CB was a p**do - just like 100s of others (according to amaral) around at the time. amaral who says that CB fits the profile of a suspect perfectly.

So what did amaral and the PJ do to investigate CB in 2007?
There’s been many articles about CB ....Did I read Amaral’s excuse that the PJ officers went and knocked at his house a few times and he wasn’t in....so that was that :s_scratchhead
Madeleine McCann- Abducted May 2007 from Praia Da Luz, Algarve, Portugal.
DCI Redwood of Scotland Yard - stated that Madeleine could still be found - alive.
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Post by sal » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:17 pm

catkins wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:07 pm
jjbd wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:37 am
G-Unit
It is tiresome to have to take facts into account, I'm sure, but without an informant CB would not have attracted police attention for this crime.
Does it really have to be pointed out that CB was on amaral's radar in 2007 - don't forget - amaral who knew his van had child attractive drawings in 2007. amaral who knew that he had hippy long hair in May 2007. amaral who knew that CB was a p**do - just like 100s of others (according to amaral) around at the time. amaral who says that CB fits the profile of a suspect perfectly.

So what did amaral and the PJ do to investigate CB in 2007?
There’s been many articles about CB ....Did I read Amaral’s excuse that the PJ officers went and knocked at his house a few times and he wasn’t in....so that was that :s_scratchhead

He appears to be floundering to come up with an answer


JAC: Very well. Gonçalo Amaral, at the time, one can now understand, and I wanted to ask you this: Christian Brueckner was one of the people who came to be identified as one of the people of interest for the investigation at the time, as far as it was reported there were 6… 600 people or over time it was accumulated 600 people time who could be of interest for the investigation…

GA: A lot of diligences within the process, surveys were done...

JAC: Was Christian Brueckner one of those 600 people or not?

GA: Only rereading the whole process finding...

JAC: You have no memory of that?

GA: I have been told that yes, that there went there knocking on the door, colleagues who are retired like me and who said that the person was not at home. But there were hundreds...

JAC: But, that is, but it must have been...

GA: They were in the hundreds, as, and not only of that type of typology but above all p.a.e.d.o.philes...

JAC: But note one thing Gonçalo Amaral, the, the question that is here... but the question that is here is...

GA: It could have been theft, we also...

JAC: We know that he served a sentence...

GA: …did a survey of burglars, namely burglary in apartments, and apparently this man was not in the list of apartment burglaries, he will have stolen…

JAC: Fuel...

GA: Yes, fuel.
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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by honestbroker1 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:52 pm

Irrespective of his involvement with Madeleine, one shibboleth of the haters categorically disproved is that you just don't get, rolled into one, a burglar likely to be, also, a p.a.e.dophile. Brueckner fits all categories.

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Speaking to Spanish daily newspaper ABC, the unnamed Portuguese official, who claims to still be a serving officer, but is not working on the case said: “People talk about surprises in the Madeleine McCann case with the capture of this German man, but for me it's no surprise.

“This individual was already investigated around four years ago. There's no evidence Christian Brückner is involved in her disappearance.”


How would any PT official - not working on the case - have the faintest clue?
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Post by Carana » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:28 pm

GA: I have been told that yes, that there went there knocking on the door, colleagues who are retired like me and who said that the person was not at home.

What is that supposed to mean?

- He was told that.. (so he doesn't actually know?)
- Retired colleagues (why retired?)
- Did what? Knocked on his "home", found he wasn't there and was therefore excluded?
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Post by sal » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:30 pm

Carana wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:28 pm
GA: I have been told that yes, that there went there knocking on the door, colleagues who are retired like me and who said that the person was not at home.

What is that supposed to mean?

- He was told that.. (so he doesn't actually know?)
- Retired colleagues (why retired?)
- Did what? Knocked on his "home", found he wasn't there and was therefore excluded?

Translated -haven't a bloody clue
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Post by jjbd » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:23 pm

sal wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:30 pm
Carana wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:28 pm
GA: I have been told that yes, that there went there knocking on the door, colleagues who are retired like me and who said that the person was not at home.

What is that supposed to mean?

- He was told that.. (so he doesn't actually know?)
- Retired colleagues (why retired?)
- Did what? Knocked on his "home", found he wasn't there and was therefore excluded?

Translated -haven't a bloody clue
Translated - they didn't think it was important enough at the time - but apparently according to amaral CB ticks all the boxes to be a suspect - converted to a convenient scapegoat.

Unfortunately for amaral it is not his police force that is investigating. Oh and wait - the prime suspect is still alive and subject to an ongoing investigation that amaral mocks but has no control over.

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