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Post by catkins » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:19 pm

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“We love you and we are waiting for you and we will never abandon you,”
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I still hope and pray that the McCanns get if not Madeleine then the answers to why, who and where is she.

I have to say that CB scares me when you read about his history.

Sadly I do think that he is the closest yet to the monster that I think could take a young child :s_cry
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Post by Whiterose » Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:37 am

From an interview with Amaral -

Two or three months later, Christian B., has the possibility, or rather has in his control a 3 or 4 year-old child, he photographs her in poses that are sexually appealing, those photographs are later apprehended in a search that is done to Christian B. property. But note that, if he at some point says that he wants a child, to rape, murder and tape the whole act, two or three months later he has access to a child, to a little girl, and he doesn’t rape her, he doesn’t murder her and the only thing he does is to take photographs. There is a difference between what he had said to the other individual, the p.a.e.dophile, and what actually happened. The German police, however, don’t mention this, and they know this is what happened.


Can you believe this is coming from the mouth of the person who was in charge of the investigation into Madeleine being abducted? If he had an ounce of sense in his head he would realise that if CB had raped and murdered that child, the Police would know immediately that it was him as the mother had left her child in the care of CB. Then again maybe they wouldn't have judging by Amarals past record. :s_sad
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Post by jjbd » Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:26 am

Madeleine McCann cops in mock trial to test evidence against Christian Brueckner

Prosecutors trying to nail the prime suspect in Madeleine McCann ’s disappearance are planning a mock trial to test their evidence.

They will stage it behind closed doors in a bid to strengthen their case against Christian Brueckner, 44. German investigators made the decision after meeting Portuguese police last week.

A source said: “It will be a sort of trial run to see how strong their case is and see what more evidence might be needed to charge him. They are 100 per cent convinced but want to test arguments under cross-examination.”

It’s believed the trial “rehearsal” will take place at the investigators’ office, with lawyers split into prosecution and defence teams.

Another unnamed "source" but if true it could be sign that things really are about to start gearing up for a trial.

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Post by honestbroker1 » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:03 pm

Brietta at UKInjustice, on the money as usual

https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.p ... 668785#new
I don't think anyone has abrogated Brueckner's right to the presumption of innocence.

I wish it was possible to say the same about Kate and Gerry McCann and the recognition of their right to the same.
Certainly, in England, judges of a certain seniority and above are deemed sufficiently rigorous and impartial not to allow their judgements to be influenced or swayed by pre-trial publicity. I would be amazed if the same is not, also, true in Germany where, of course, trials are both conducted and determined by judges, with no juries called to return "guilty" or "innocent" verdicts.

The ancillary point that would ordinarily apply, protecting the reputation of a person accused but not convicted, simply doesn't, to Brueckner. He is currently serving a lengthy prison sentence for a brutal rape and has a string of convictions for similar crimes. Simply, irrespective of his guilt or innocence of crimes against Madeleine, he has no reputation to defend or be defended.

So, there simply are no "protection of reputation" issues to consider in respect of speculation against Brueckner.

Personally, I would love that neither Brueckner nor anyone remotely like him had anything to do with Madeleine's disappearance.

But that is wishful thinking.

I fear the German prosecutors may have it right.

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by sal » Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:17 am

Bruckner abuses several German children in the Algarve
Girls with behavioral problems, who were on vacation in Portugal, were taken to Christian Bruckner by a mystery woman.
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EXCLUSIVESGonçalo Amaral talks about German investigation into Maddie McCann's disappearance
Gonçalo Amaral talks about German investigation into Maddie McCann's disappearance
A friend of Christian Bruckner, suspected of raping and killing Madeleine McCann, said that the pedophile abused German children who were in a shelter in the area of ​​São Bartolomeu de Messines, in the Algarve. The witness revealed that Bruckner told him that the girls with behavioral problems had been referred to him by a woman who was receiving money from a rehabilitation program in Portugal.

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by sal » Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:19 am

Rogério Alves says claims made by Gonçalo Amaral are a 'waste of time'

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Post by jjbd » Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:30 am

MADDIE WITNESS Witness in Madeleine McCann probe to sue discredited Portuguese cop for defamation

A WITNESS in the Madeleine McCann probe is to sue discredited ­Portuguese cop Goncalo Amaral for defamation.

HGV driver Helge ­Busching, 49, identified prime suspect Christian B, 44, to cops.

His evidence helped nail the convicted p.a.e.dophile of a rape in Portugal in 2005 close to where Madeleine vanished in 2007, aged three.

Amaral — thrown off the case after wrongly identifying parents Kate and Gerry as suspects — branded German Busching and a pal “unreliable witnesses” in a book.

Busching told The Sun: “I’m not happy with what has been said about me by this policeman.”

His lawyer, George Tzeriz, said the criticism was “unjustified and unwarranted”.

He said: “He is a key witness in this investigation and is seen so by the police.”
I really hope he does sue.

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by Pedro » Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:49 am

jjbd, your words are mine.

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by jjbd » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:40 pm

by Verdi Today at 12:48

I only post-up these reports for posterity, this is after all a reference forum for now and the future. In years to come, CMOMM/MMRG will be a leading reference source for case study - it's important we get it right!

That's our vision and our legacy to Madeleine Beth McCann.
Yet gonc says these people are not lunatics!

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by sal » Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:27 pm

^^^^^definite proof that they are.

self deluded fool.
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Post by Whiterose » Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:32 pm

jjbd wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:40 pm
by Verdi Today at 12:48

I only post-up these reports for posterity, this is after all a reference forum for now and the future. In years to come, CMOMM/MMRG will be a leading reference source for case study - it's important we get it right!

That's our vision and our legacy to Madeleine Beth McCann.
Yet gonc says these people are not lunatics!

:s_rofl :s_rofl :s_rofl oh dear
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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by sal » Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:16 pm

Bruckner's friend says that suspected of killing Maddie abused minors in Portugal
Alemão is characterized as a psychopath, who fears nothing or anyone and steals and kills with equal ease.
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Christian Bruckner, suspected of killing Madeleine McCann, enjoys raping children and is a sadist. In Portugal, he will have used minors to satisfy his sexual whims.

The disclosure is made by a friend of Christian's and is in the German file to which Investigation CM had exclusive access.

Bruckner was known as 'the head of the table'.
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Post by jjbd » Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:44 pm

From Websleuths
04/05/1992 - Theft and driving without a licence (Court of Wurzburg)
09/11/1992 - Theft (Court of Wurzburg)
06/05/1993 - Theft and driving without a licence (Court of Wurzburg)
13/10/1994 - Child sexual abuse (Court of Wurzburg)
G 27/12/2005 - Driving without insurance and violation of gun legislation/carrying a weapon (Court of Pforzheim)
26/10/2006 - Disobedience (Court of Lagos) Note: this is for the German Jag plates and CB was already in Prison at this point for the Diesel theft)
21/12/2006 - Diesel theft (Court of Portimao) Note: CB had already been in prison for 8.5 months for this crime when the trial eventually took place.
17/11/2010 - Falsification of documents (Court of Hannover)
06/10/2011 - Drug dealing/Trafficking (Court of Niebull)
28/01/2013 - Theft (Court of Hannover)
14/03/2013 - Violation of gun legislation/carrying a weapon (Court of Braunschweig)
15/07/2015 - Attempted theft (Court of Braunschweig)
16/02/2016 - Child sexual abuse and possession of child pornography (Court of Braunschweig)
08/06/2016 - Drink driving, driving without insurance and falsification of documents (Court of Helmstedt)
Dec 2019 - Rape of 72-year-old (Court of Braunschweig)
In the cesspit and other places there are posters defending this vermin.

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Post by sal » Sun Nov 07, 2021 6:54 am

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... villa.html

EXCLUSIVE: Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner told his girlfriend he WAS near the holiday villa on the night toddler vanished
Former girlfriend of Christian Brueckner, Nakscije Miftari, speaks to the Mail on Sunday in an exclusive interview
She recalled her boyfriend falling silent at the subject of Madeleine's abduction when raised by friends during a party in early 2014 at their flat in Germany
The 25-year-old, who was 17 when she dated then 36-year-old Brueckner, said: 'I asked him and he said, "I know about Maddie, I was near the hotel at the time."
This comes as German prosecutors hone their attention to the 44-year-old sexual predator who are convinced he snatched three-year-old Madeleine
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jjbd wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:26 am
Madeleine McCann cops in mock trial to test evidence against Christian Brueckner

Prosecutors trying to nail the prime suspect in Madeleine McCann ’s disappearance are planning a mock trial to test their evidence.

They will stage it behind closed doors in a bid to strengthen their case against Christian Brueckner, 44. German investigators made the decision after meeting Portuguese police last week.

A source said: “It will be a sort of trial run to see how strong their case is and see what more evidence might be needed to charge him. They are 100 per cent convinced but want to test arguments under cross-examination.”

It’s believed the trial “rehearsal” will take place at the investigators’ office, with lawyers split into prosecution and defence teams.
Another unnamed "source" but if true it could be sign that things really are about to start gearing up for a trial.
?? Sounds a bit odd to me. I thought the defence doesn't get access to the files until / unless the person is charged.
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Post by honestbroker1 » Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:37 pm

Today's Telegraph;
In the end it was four simple words which ended 18 days of desperate searching and fading hope – and sparked troubling questions about another missing daughter on another continent.

“My name is Cleo,” uttered four-year-old Cleo Smith as she was found by shocked officers in a bedroom in a locked bungalow in her remote home town of Carnarvon, Western Australia on Wednesday, after her abduction from her family’s tent some 40 miles northwards in a coastal campsite.

Her rescue was declared a “remarkable” result by the emotional Premier of WA, Mark McGowan, and one which appeared to stun those involved in the search as much as the entire nation – as news alerts pinged on phones in unison over breakfast.

The bubbly child had been dubbed Australia’s Madeleine McCann, who went missing at almost exactly the same age. While Cleo was reunited with her overjoyed young parents in hospital, it’s a conclusion which is likely to serve as bittersweet news for Gerry and Kate McCann, whose daughter became a global household name for the worst possible reasons after being snatched from their holiday apartment in Portugal in May 2007.

For 14 long years there has, tragically, been no sign of the toddler – a fact Australians were well aware of as the frantic police search passed the two-week mark, with the public urged to check bins and roadsides for the red sleeping bag that Cleo was sleeping in the night she disappeared.

Her safe rescue triggers new and difficult questions over whether the Portuguese police could and should have done far more in their investigation, especially in those initial hours and days which are so critical in child abduction cases.

There is certainly huge pride in what has been achieved in finding Cleo. McGowan declared in a news conference that the officers, detectives and analysts of the Western Australian Police Force had barely slept, having worked around the clock in their bid to find Cleo alive. He added that he expected their “amazing piece of detective work” would be analysed by police forces across the country and indeed around the world. He could well be right.

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The Blowholes campground where Cleo was taken from her tent in the dead of night is one of the most remote holiday locations on earth, over 550 miles north of Perth, surrounded by scrub and endless coastline. It wasn’t the relatively busy Algarve holiday resort of Praia da Luz with hundreds of tourists, locals and resort staff among potential witnesses and suspects.

Cleo, said by police to be thankfully “physically unharmed” is now settling back home, just four miles from where she was discovered.

On Thursday, Terence Darrell Kelly, 36, appeared in court and was charged with “forcibly or fraudulently taking or enticing a child under 16”. He did not apply for bail and was remanded in custody until December 6.

In a short statement issued by police, Cleo’s parents, Ellie Smith and Jake Gliddon, said they wanted to take the opportunity to thank all those involved in her rescue: “We are so thankful that our little girl is back within our arms and our family is whole again.”

A key part of the investigation that led to Cleo’s rescue was the swift clearing of her parents from any suspicion of guilt. Initially, police said they “weren’t ruling anything out” in relation to her bizarre disappearance from her mother and step-father’s tent in the middle of the night. Suspicion unfairly, if perhaps inevitably, fell on them – particularly online – but police extensively monitored the couple and tapped their phones before publicly concluding they were not involved.

One of the many documented faults of the Portuguese investigation was their clumsy policing in the initial hours after Madeleine vanished as she slept alongside her twin siblings.

While the Australian police immediately sealed off the tent where Cleo and her family had been sleeping, in Portugal they failed to make the McCann’s holiday apartment a crime scene. As a result, up to 40 people, including police and resort staff, trampled through the accommodation, literally wiping out any chance of DNA evidence or other forensic clues. An entire volume of evidence was essentially – and possibly fatally – erased.


The Telegraph’s crime correspondent Martin Evans, who spent months reporting in Portugal on the Madeleine story, recalls how there was also seemingly “no strategy in place” at the inexperienced local force.

“The investigation was flawed from the very start as it was clear the police were totally out of their depth,” Evans says. “They were unsure what they were even investigating for far too long – was it a missing person they were dealing with or an abduction? They had no idea.”

During the Cleo investigation, a thorough and detailed land and sea search, involving helicopters and drones, was called off after a few days, leading local police, backed up by senior detectives flown in from Perth, to focus their resources solely on investigating the abduction theory.

In contrast, the Portuguese police led a chaotic, scatter-gun operation and spent weeks speculating Madeleine may have just wandered off, before slowly exploring other lines of enquiry. Then came the extremely flawed “distractions” to the entire investigation, including the theory the McCanns had killed their own daughter and later placed her body in the boot of a hire car.

This harmful accusation, including declaring the parents “arguidos” (suspects), scuppered the chances of investigating local s-e-x offenders and other vital lines of enquiry for some time.

Writer Miranda Levy witnessed the visceral grief of Kate McCann up close in the Algarve in 2007, when she interviewed her to mark 100 days since Madeleine vanished. By then, suspicion had already turned to her parents: “I found [Kate] heartbroken, fragile, but also resolute,” Levy says. “‘It could have happened to anyone,’ she told me. ‘I feel like the unluckiest person in the world.’”

In 2011, when Scotland Yard started their own inquiry, dubbed Operation Grange, they went back to basics – going over every theory and lead in detail, also carrying out excavations and land surveys near the holiday resort. But by then it was tragically too little, too late.

The Australian police had one major advantage that the Portuguese police didn’t have at their disposal in 2007, being on the right side of the smartphone revolution and abundant CCTV street cameras.

Luck, of course, often plays a role – alongside good old-fashioned policing. After all, it was sheer chance that two 10-year-old British girls were discovered in a flat in January 1999 after going missing for four days after being snatched off the street by p.a.e.dophile Alan Hopkinson in St Leonard’s, East Sussex. The case dominated the headlines as 300 officers frantically searched for them, yet they were only found because police went to his home to do a spot check in relation to his previous crimes.

In finding Cleo, Australia has its miracle ending. But Levy’s first thoughts, on hearing the happy news, turned to what the McCanns must be feeling. “Relief, that another family won’t have to go through what they suffered, and that a little girl has been reunited with her family?” she wonders. “Or, an ache that this was a happiness denied them: that they still don’t know what happened to Madeleine? Most likely, it’s a mixture of both.”

Last year a German prosecutor declared Christian Brueckner, a prisoner currently behind bars for an unrelated matter, to be the prime suspect in Madeleine’s disappearance. However they have so far failed to release precise details of their evidence and as a result her parents still don’t have closure or final answers.

“For Kate and Gerry McCann, the pain of losing Madeleine never goes away,” note Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan, authors of the book Looking for Madeleine. “Every new ‘child missing’ headline must exacerbate that pain. A successful resolution, as in the case of the little girl in Australia, is in happy contrast. Could it be that the McCanns’ persistent badgering of officialdom to find their child, their determination to raise public awareness, has spurred on another police force, helped another stricken family? One can certainly hope so.”

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by sal » Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:51 pm

Interesting :s_thumbsup hb
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Post by Pedro » Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:53 pm

about the Daily Mail of 6 November 2021:

I agree with these comments written there:

"There's no evidence because he was never anywhere near Maddie. He's a real bad guy but he's not guilty of anything to do with her."

"Pure speculation based on weak circumstantial evidence by the German Prosecutor."

"Another smokescreen."

"How can you be convinced that someone has committed a crime if you are struggling to compile enough evidence against them? Doesnt this show how dangerous circumstantial evidence on its own is? Is he a patsy? Isnt first day of detective school not getting a suspect and trying to make evidence fit around them? And even more peculiar, what happened to the German super strict privacy rights of an individual, there is something very wrong here."

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Post by sal » Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:08 am

Rogério Alves says claims made by Gonçalo Amaral are a 'waste of time'

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by Alibongo » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:07 am

Thanks Sal
It sounds like he's literally been getting away with murder for years!!
Parent-blaming is all-too-common these days, and usually the point is to make other parents feel better about their own parenting skills

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Post by jjbd » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:24 pm

MADDIE MCCANN
FRIEND WHO WAS WATCHING THE MCCANN, AND HELPED THE GERMAN SUSPECT, CAN'T BE ARRESTED
Portuguese - who watched over the McCann and gave indications to the German suspect to have killed Maddie - did not commit any crime under Portuguese law.

Christian Brückner's friend who worked at the Ocean Club and who reportedly provided information about the McCann couple's routines cannot be punished.

According to the Correio da Manhã, in the light of Portuguese law, the man does not incur any sanction even if he knew that the German's goal was to rob the house where the English were.

Brückner's accomplice was Portuguese
The Portuguese and former tourist village employee revealed to authorities that he passed various information to his friend about the habits of English tourists, including Maddie's family. Brückner, who had previously been convicted of shoplifting and was referred to as sexual abuse, will have known through his friend that several tourists used to spend hours having dinner and left property in the apartments.

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by jjbd » Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:12 pm

Quote from: John on Today at 12:46:20 PM

I don't believe he is killer material though. Being a drug dealer, pervert and rapist is one thing but murder is a whole new level.
Isn't this idiot an ex Policeman?

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Post by sal » Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:21 pm

jjbd wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:12 pm
Quote from: John on Today at 12:46:20 PM

I don't believe he is killer material though. Being a drug dealer, pervert and rapist is one thing but murder is a whole new level.
Isn't this idiot an ex Policeman?
hmm........
The alleged murderer of three-year-old Maddie McCann fantasized in a chat about the kidnapping and sexual abuse of a child. This emerges from investigative documents that are available to SPIEGEL. He wanted to "capture something small and use it for days," wrote Christian B. in September 2013 in a chat to a friend. On his objection that it was dangerous, B replied: "Oh, if the evidence is destroyed afterwards."
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